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Pat NolanĀ On Dogs!

Pat Nolan
On Dogs!

Mistakes vs. Disobedience: When (And When Not) To Correct Your Hunting Retriever

hunting retriever mistakes vs. disobedience retriever training Feb 06, 2026
hunting retriever in the field

One of the hardest judgment calls in retriever training is knowing when to step in with pressure. Correcting too often can lead to a worried, anxious dog. Let too much slide, and your standards will fall apart.

Pat’s One Rule on pressure keeps that decision simple:

“If the dog makes a mistake, I cannot correct him.
 If the dog is disobedient, I must take some kind of corrective action.”

That line separates good hunting dog training from a long, confusing grind. Your job is to know which side of the line you are on.

Confusion, Mistakes, And Why Correcting Them Backfires

Pat makes an important distinction that often gets lost in the field:

  •  Confusion is a mental state. The dog does not know what to do with the information you just gave him.
  •  A mistake is an action. The dog is trying to do the right thing and comes up with the wrong answer.

Both are off limits for correction.

Confusion is usually a teaching problem. Pat describes it this way: if he suddenly says “vouse” in German to a dog that only knows English, the dog has no idea what to do with that sound. The dog is confused. He cannot process the information.

A mistake looks different. The dog understands the general rules but misreads the picture. Pat’s example is a dog he sends with “Get in the water.” The dog takes off and runs along the bank. The dog may be thinking, “This is that by-the-pond blind where I stay close to the water without getting in.” He is acting, not frozen, and he is trying to answer the question. He just got it wrong.

Pat often uses a classic discrimination experiment with shapes to explain this. A rat was trained to choose between a circle and an oblong.

  •  Circle meant reward.
  •  Oblong meant punishment.

The rat learned quickly. Circle was safe. Oblong was not.

Then the researchers changed the picture. They stretched the circle and compressed the oblong until the shapes looked almost the same. At that point the rat could not reliably tell which choice was “right.” When it guessed wrong and was punished, the rat did not learn faster. It broke down. It could not tell what was correct and what was not.

That rat is like a retriever facing a picture that has been pushed past what he can discriminate. He understands some rules, but he cannot tell when he is right or wrong in this version of the problem. He makes a mistake. If you punish that, you are not teaching. You are creating a dog that is afraid to move.

In retriever training terms, confusion and mistakes show up when you ask for something your teaching has not supported yet, for example:

  •  A young dog on a complex blind that is far beyond what you have taught.
  •  A dog that has never seen this kind of water, cover, current, and suction.
  •  A dog who is seeing a fresh concept like channel blinds or tight re-entries for the first time.

In those situations the dog is not blowing you off. He is either mentally lost or working hard and still guessing. If you hit that dog with pressure, you do not get clearer behavior. You get a dog that thrashes, spins, or simply shuts down.

As Pat puts it, “A mistake is the dog trying the best he can and coming up with the wrong answer. We should never correct that.” Confusion is “I do not know what to do here.” That does not get punished either.

Most handlers can recognize obvious confusion. The trouble comes when they see a mistake and say, “He knows better than that,” and treat it as disobedience. That is where many dogs get unfair pressure.

What Counts As Disobedience?

If confusion and honest mistakes are not corrected, what does deserve pressure?

Disobedience is a choice. The dog understands the command and the picture. He decides to do something else.

Pat uses simple water work to draw this line. If he says “Get in the water” and the dog runs by the pond because he thinks this is the by-the-water blind, that is a mistake. Pat will stop him and tell him what he actually wants. If he says “Get in the water” again and the dog says “No, I am not getting in the water” and continues to run the bank, that is disobedience.

A classic field example is the poison bird.

You throw a bird or bumper the dog badly wants. Then you give a known cue, such as “Here” for recall or “Heel” to bring the dog back into position. The dog:

  •  Looks at you.
  •  Knows what those words mean in this context.
  •  Bolts for the bird anyway.

That is not confusion. That is disobedience. The dog understands both the cue and the standard and chooses the bird over the command.

Disobedience is where Pat’s One Rule says pressure belongs. You are not asking the dog to solve a new puzzle. You are enforcing training he already has.

Sorting Mistakes From Disobedience In Real Life

When you feel that flash of frustration, it helps to slow down and ask a few questions.

  1. Have I actually taught this skill at this level of difficulty?
  •  Have we only done yard work, or have we worked full field setups?
  •  Has the dog seen this type of water, cover, current, and decoys before?
  •  Have we trained for this level of poison birds or multiples?

  1. Has the dog shown me he understands this picture before?
  •  Has he given multiple clean reps on similar work?
  •  Has he done well in quieter or simpler versions of this setup?

  1. What does his body language say?
  •  A confused dog scans, hesitates, hunts for the answer, or looks back for help. He is not sure which rule applies.
  •  A disobedient dog locks in on what he wants, ignores you, and commits to his choice without checking back.

If the dog genuinely has not seen this level of work, or if you are not sure he understands it, treat what you see as a training problem, not a character problem. That is either confusion or an honest mistake, and it does not get punished.

How To Respond To Mistakes

When you decide that what you are seeing is a mistake, your job is to teach, not correct.

In practice, that can look like:

  •  Simplifying the setup. Reduce distance, factors, or complexity if the whole picture is too hard.
  •  Helping the dog with clearer casts, body pressure, or a check cord where appropriate.
  •  Breaking the problem into smaller pieces and rebuilding success.
  •  Rewarding effort and improvement, not just perfection.

Pat also points out that sometimes you simply stop the wrong action and give the dog clearer information.

In his water example:

  •  He says, “Get in the water.”
  •  The dog runs by the pond, thinking of a different blind.
  •  Pat stops the dog. He does not punish that run-by as disobedience.
  •  He gives the cue again: “Get in the water.”
  •  The dog jumps in.

The dog tried, guessed wrong, and then accepted new information. There is no need to add pressure. You have stopped the wrong behavior, given the right cue, and the dog took it.

Underneath that choice is how Pat prefers to use the four consequences. When he has a choice, he would rather use reinforcement, positive or negative, for the desired behavior than punishment for the wrong one. Stop the mistake, tell the dog what to do, and then let reinforcement do the teaching when he gets it right.

Handled this way, mistakes become useful information. The dog learns to keep working and listening, even as the training gets harder.

How To Respond To Disobedience

When you decide you are seeing disobedience, the rule flips. If you skip correction here, the dog learns that commands are optional, especially when birds or bumpers are involved.

For retriever and gun dog obedience training, disobedience usually looks like:

  •  The dog blows off a known recall to chase a bird or bumper.
  •  The dog breaks from a sit or stand on a mark after months of steady work.
  •  The dog ignores a clear cast in familiar terrain to take the line he prefers.

Pat’s emphasis here is on how you use pressure, and which consequence you choose.

He says that in the vast majority of cases, when he puts pressure on a dog, he is trying to enforce or reinforce a desired behavior, not just shut down the wrong one. In other words, he prefers to use negative reinforcement followed by positive reinforcement for doing the right thing, rather than direct punishment for doing the wrong thing.

Using the recall example you already have:

  •  A direct punishment approach would be: you say “Here,” the dog keeps chasing the bird, you say “No” and push the collar button while he is still running away. You are directly punishing the wrong behavior.
  •  Pat’s approach is usually different. He almost always uses indirect pressure in the field.

Here is how that looks in his system:

  1. You say “Here” and the dog keeps running for the bird.
  2. You stop the dog with a whistle sit. If he does not stop, you may use pressure on “Sit” to make that happen. Either way, the chase is over and he fails to get rewarded for the wrong choice.
  3. Now you call him off the bird with “Here” and apply e-collar pressure on the recall command, not on the chase.
  4. The moment the dog turns and starts running to you, you stop the pressure. Coming to you is what turns it off.
  5. When he arrives, you add positive reinforcement, such as praise or another controlled retrieve later in the session.

In that sequence:

  •  The wrong behavior does not earn reward.
  •  You redirect the dog.
  •  You put pressure on the right behavior (coming when called) and let the dog turn that pressure off by doing it.

That is negative reinforcement in service of “Do the right thing,” not just “Stop that.” Pat sometimes jokes about this as the Spike Lee theory of dog training: ask the dog to do the right thing, then let him feel the benefit of doing it.

The same pattern applies to cast refusals. The dog misses the pond on a blind where he knows better:

  •  You stop him. That stop tells him that line is wrong.
  •  You handle him again with a clear cast toward the water.
  •  You may apply indirect pressure on the cast response rather than simply lighting him up for running the bank. Doing the right thing turns the pressure off.

So in moments of true disobedience:

  •  Give the known command once in a calm, clear voice.
  •  Use pressure as reinforcement for the correct response, or as indirect pressure that drives the dog back into the behavior you want.
  •  Release pressure the instant the dog chooses that behavior.
  •  Follow up with honest positive reinforcement when he completes it.

The correction is not about anger. It is a structured use of the four consequences so that obedience still has meaning under real field pressure.

The Payoff For Your Retriever

Holding this line makes your retriever’s life simpler.

  •  Confusion is a signal that your teaching is not clear yet.
  •  Mistakes are part of learning. The dog is allowed to try, miss, and try again without getting punished.
  •  Disobedience has predictable consequences, so the dog understands the rules.

Over time, your dog learns that staying engaged with you is the safest and most rewarding place to be, whether you are in the yard, at a hunt test, or in a duck blind. That is how clear standards and fair use of pressure build a confident, reliable hunting dog instead of a fearful one.